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T O P I C R E V I E Wits_aquaHey guys, below I have the placements of two different synastries with the same guy- but the girls are different. So I was wondering if anyone could give me some insight of which synastry works/would work the best for the guy? In a few words, describe how you think each relationship would be.1st syanstryGuys planet - 1st girl planets:Sun opposition SunSun sextile MarsSun opposition SaturnSun conjunct ChironSun conjunct S.NodeMoon square SunMoon sextile MercuryMoon qunincunx MarsMoon square JupiterMoon square SaturnMoon trine ASCMercury square MoonMercury quincunx VenusMercury opposition NeptuneMercury opposition UranusMercury trine PlutoMercury trine VertexMercury trine ErosVenus sextile MoonVenus trine VenusVenus quincunx NeptuneVenus quincunx PlutoVenus opposition LilithVenus conjunct ASCVenus quincunx ErosMars sextile SunMars square MercuryMars sextile MarsMars trine JupiterMars sextile SaturnMars sextile PsycheJupiter trine SunJupiter conjunct MarsJupiter trine SaturnJupiter trine N.NodeJupiter conjunct PsycheSaturn sextile VenusSaturn opposition ASCUranus opposition ASCNeptune conjunct MercuryNeptune conjunct UranusNeptune sextile ErosPluto square SunPluto sextile MercuryPluto square JupiterPluto sextile NeptunePluto sextile UranusPluto conjunct Eros2nd synastryGuys planets- 2nd girls planets: Moon sextile SunMoon trine MoonMercury conjunct MoonMercury sextile VenusMercury sextile JupiterMercury quincunx SaturnMercury opposition NeptuneMercury opposition UranusMercury trine PlutoVenus sextile MercuryVenus square VenusVenus conjunct MarsVenus square JupiterVenus trine SaturnVenus quincunx NeptuneVenus quincunx UranusVenus quincunx PlutoMars quincunx SunMars square MoonJupiter square SunSaturn trine SunUranus trine SunNeptune trine SunNeptune opposition MoonNeptune quincunx MercuryPluto trine MoonPluto square MercuryPluto square SaturnPluto sextile Uranus So how do you think the guy feels in each relationship?? EDIT: I have added below the three natal charts, I couldn't generate synastries because I don't know two of the three birth times GUY'S GIRL no1 (I know birth time) GIRL no2 Got Gemini??It would be much better to post the synastry and composite charts from astro.com.------------------Gemini SunLibra MoonGemini MercuryCancer VenusVirgo MarsVirgo AscAnd yes, I'm a guy!its_aquaI don't have the birth hour of two of th three people, so I think that if I post the charts it would be misleadingCeridwenastro.com has an option to cast charts without birthtimeits_aquawrong quoteits_aqua quote:Originally posted by Ceridwen:astro.com has an option to cast charts without birthtimeHow can I do that? It shows a mesage saying that the synastry chart can't be generated without a birth time. CeridwenNo, but you can put up both or all three natals without birthtime here 8(I prefer that anyway, so I can see the degrees better)However, without birthtime any interpretation would be very general and seriously lacking. I think your question wouldnīt be able to be answered in a satisfying way, as a very integral part of our attraction pattern are the houses and house-rulerships.Venusian MoonNumber 2 lolits_aqua quote:Originally posted by Ceridwen:No, but you can put up both or all three natals without birthtime here 8(I prefer that anyway, so I can see the degrees better)However, without birthtime any interpretation would be very general and seriously lacking. I think your question wouldnīt be able to be answered in a satisfying way, as a very integral part of our attraction pattern are the houses and house-rulerships.Okay Ceri, I'll post them here and hopefully you can give me some insight!its_aqua quote:Originally posted by Venusian Moon:Number 2 loland the reason you picked no2?its_aqua quote:Originally posted by Ceridwen:No, but you can put up both or all three natals without birthtime here 8(I prefer that anyway, so I can see the degrees better)However, without birthtime any interpretation would be very general and seriously lacking. I think your question wouldnīt be able to be answered in a satisfying way, as a very integral part of our attraction pattern are the houses and house-rulerships. quote:Originally posted by Got Gemini??:It would be much better to post the synastry and composite charts from astro.com.Okay guys, here are the charts:GUY'S GIRL no1 (I know birth time) GIRL no2 themischievousone#2Venusian Moon quote:Originally posted by its_aqua: and the reason you picked no2?Because i like intensity CeridwenIt`s hard to tell without his birthtime, and the involvement of rulers could actually change everything.Anyway, as it is now.Guy has a Gemini-Venus, which is also a skipped step to his nodal axis (though widely). he probably is attracted to or needs some mental stimulation as well as a flirty approach, at least when it comes to attractions.however, his Moon might be in Scorpio (it is really difficult to say without birthtime, actually Moon could be in Libra with an early birth, and it would emphasise the need for a more airy intellectual stimulation along with relating in a pleasant, though not necessarily very intense way).BUT should he be a lter birth, his Moon is in Scorpio, possibly conjunct Pluto and would change it all! This would be a placement of utmost depth and intensity. As much as he might be attracted to charming, witty banter (Venus in Gemini), emotionally he would need a very deep and intense emotional connection to someone.Girl No 1:ASC in Gemini, which would generally attract his Gemini-Venus, but it is not close enough for being conjunct his ASC. So it could relate to a general liking, but simmering in the background. Venus sextile her Moon and trine her Venus is a pleasant vibe, a harmony and balance especially in terms of how they relate to each other.I know that textbooks emphasize the harmonious aspects, but to be honest I have never seen a harmonious sextile or trine "triggering" the need to be in a relationship. While these are very harmonious (and yes, you need that harmony for relationship-compatibility), if there is no dynamic aspect, these people might like each other a lot but never get up their butt to do and INITIATE something. They might be just too passive.There is a possibility that her Sun is square his Moon, along with Suns in opposition. While this speaks of differences in temperament, it could very well be what is needed to relate to each other in strong ways. (my parents have something similiar: my Mum`s Scorpio Sun opposes my Dad`s Moon and squares his Sun in Aquarius - was enough spark for 40 years so far).Her Jupiter opposite his Moon (if his Moon is close to 7 degree) would be very supportive as well. A great friendship vibe.however girl no 1 might be lacking the Pluto-vibe his possible Scorpio-Moon needs.his Sun on her SN, might give a past life link, or at least a pull that is very much based on familiarity. These pulls can be extremely strong, but there is the possibility that it will not be enough to carry on into the future.I am going to have a look at girl 2 laterCeridwenGirl No 2:She has her Mars conjunct his Venus - she could be exactly what the doctor prescribes, in sexual terms at least.however it does depend a little on the houseruler-relations.I ahve experienced the conjunction without feeling attracted at all when I was Mars (Mars rules my IC and has nothing to do with any kind of sexual identity or partner-ideal).The square to Venus-Jupiter; well either there are differences in taste and expression of love - but both are in Mercury-ruled signs, so there is some common ground at least-, or it might be actually a bit overindulgent. Jupiter square to Venus can actually make you quite dizzy with pleasure and joy.Her Moon in Cancer would agree with his Scorpio-Moon, too. So their emotional needs would be similiar.his Moon sextile her Sun would be a good friendship-placement, but interestingly is not as strong and dynamic as in the first synastry.her Moon possibly trine his Pluto and more importantly opopsite his Neptune. Definitely much more intense than the first one. However, there is the danger of overidealisation and not seeing the other for who they are (neptune oppositions do that).it could be that over time the emotional connection just seems to dissolve, or in the opposite, become quite spiritualized.her Mars squares his nodal axis - passionate connection, though possibly verbally combative. A bit more banter than the expected maybe.his Uranus-Saturn conjunct her NN - let me think on that.starmoonnumber 2its_aqua@Ceri thanks so much!!! In the first synastry, wouldn't the fact that the first girl has natally exact Venus-Pluto square and Sun in the 8th, match his Moon-Pluto in Scorpio conjunction? Also, the DW of Mars sextile Sun, doesn't show sexual chemistry or the sextile isn't so strong? Thanks again for your time, and I would love a conclusion of you on which synastry may work best, though its such a pitty I don't have birth times.its_aqua quote:Originally posted by starmoon:number 2thanks for your post starmoon, could you provide any feedback for your choice?Ceridwen quote:Originally posted by its_aqua:@Ceri thanks so much!!! In the first synastry, wouldn't the fact that the first girl has natally exact Venus-Pluto square and Sun in the 8th, match his Moon-Pluto in Scorpio conjunction? Also, the DW of Mars sextile Sun, doesn't show sexual chemistry or the sextile isn't so strong? Thanks again for your time, and I would love a conclusion of you on which synastry may work best, though its such a pitty I don't have birth times.I did not see the Venus-Pluto-square. lolYes of course that makes her resonate with Pluto, but more on a Venusian way. While he seeks the intensity in terms of his lunar emotional needs. Actually she could be a bit too intense for his airy Venus.The Sun in 8th house however could be pretty strong in reflecting his Moon-Pluto-theme. yes. Though it is an Aqua-Sun. It is not an ideal situation, but it may work.About the Sun-Mars-sextile. Sun-Mars in aspect is always good to have for sexual and physical attraction and energy. Personally I donīt view the sextile as very strong, but maybe others see that differently.I think though that it can produce some playful physical chemistry.its_aqua quote:Originally posted by Ceridwen: I did not see the Venus-Pluto-square. lolYes of course that makes her resonate with Pluto, but more on a Venusian way. While he seeks the intensity in terms of his lunar emotional needs. Actually she could be a bit too intense for his airy Venus.The Sun in 8th house however could be pretty strong in reflecting his Moon-Pluto-theme. yes. Though it is an Aqua-Sun. It is not an ideal situation, but it may work.About the Sun-Mars-sextile. Sun-Mars in aspect is always good to have for sexual and physical attraction and energy. Personally I donīt view the sextile as very strong, but maybe others see that differently.I think though that it can produce some playful physical chemistry.Thanks again Ceri.Well it seems like he chose then 2nd one.Ugh, I feel so frustrated (I was the first one you see, but didn't want to reveal it in order to get some honest feedback without sugarcoating)I can't even explain how much it gets on my nerves. She's not even pretty.I wonder if me playing it cool and not giving him much attention didn't work as "playing it cool " is supposed to work.Anyway, from my experience sooner or later Cancer guys always return, right?Haplesschild*The second girl has much better synastry with the guy, but seeing you don't know the birth time, moon and house placements could be totally different. Therefore the conjunctions may beat large degrees.And I think the guy probably feels alot more connected to the second girl, personality wise-it's not just about looks afterall haha.its_aqua quote:Originally posted by Haplesschild*:The second girl has much better synastry with the guy, but seeing you don't know the birth time, moon and house placements could be totally different. Therefore the conjunctions may beat large degrees.And I think the guy probably feels alot more connected to the second girl, personality wise-it's not just about looks afterall haha. *heartbroken*ugh, yeah i know it's not about the looks and all, but after all he's quite superficial in things like that.I hate the fact that I have to see both of them on daily basis. starmooni have looked at countless charts and the scorpio-cancer connection comes up so often it's amazing - there is something about those two moons that must feel good for the people involved and a scorpio-aries moon connection would not have the same depth and emotional connection that the other two would feel - they would just feel very connected emotionally. they also have venus conjunct mars, which is an attraction factor in and of itself , and since it's his venus sign, he'll be automatically drawn to her. they also share a sun-moon connection in cancer, which is just basic synastry and the pull between a man-woman. are you girl #1? if so, too many of your placements are in air for this guy.. although you might have things to talk about because of aqua-gemini compatibility, it might not be enough to hold his interest. just imo :-)
So I was wondering if anyone could give me some insight of which synastry works/would work the best for the guy? In a few words, describe how you think each relationship would be.
1st syanstryGuys planet - 1st girl planets:
Sun opposition SunSun sextile MarsSun opposition SaturnSun conjunct ChironSun conjunct S.Node
Moon square SunMoon sextile MercuryMoon qunincunx MarsMoon square JupiterMoon square SaturnMoon trine ASC
Mercury square MoonMercury quincunx VenusMercury opposition NeptuneMercury opposition UranusMercury trine PlutoMercury trine VertexMercury trine Eros
Venus sextile MoonVenus trine VenusVenus quincunx NeptuneVenus quincunx PlutoVenus opposition LilithVenus conjunct ASCVenus quincunx Eros
Mars sextile SunMars square MercuryMars sextile MarsMars trine JupiterMars sextile SaturnMars sextile Psyche
Jupiter trine SunJupiter conjunct MarsJupiter trine SaturnJupiter trine N.NodeJupiter conjunct Psyche
Saturn sextile VenusSaturn opposition ASC
Uranus opposition ASC
Neptune conjunct MercuryNeptune conjunct UranusNeptune sextile Eros
Pluto square SunPluto sextile MercuryPluto square JupiterPluto sextile NeptunePluto sextile UranusPluto conjunct Eros
2nd synastryGuys planets- 2nd girls planets:
Moon sextile SunMoon trine Moon
Mercury conjunct MoonMercury sextile VenusMercury sextile JupiterMercury quincunx SaturnMercury opposition NeptuneMercury opposition UranusMercury trine Pluto
Venus sextile MercuryVenus square VenusVenus conjunct MarsVenus square JupiterVenus trine SaturnVenus quincunx NeptuneVenus quincunx UranusVenus quincunx Pluto
Mars quincunx SunMars square Moon
Jupiter square Sun
Saturn trine Sun
Uranus trine Sun
Neptune trine SunNeptune opposition MoonNeptune quincunx Mercury
Pluto trine MoonPluto square MercuryPluto square SaturnPluto sextile Uranus
So how do you think the guy feels in each relationship??
EDIT: I have added below the three natal charts, I couldn't generate synastries because I don't know two of the three birth times
GUY'S
GIRL no1 (I know birth time)
GIRL no2
------------------Gemini SunLibra MoonGemini MercuryCancer VenusVirgo MarsVirgo Asc
And yes, I'm a guy!
quote:Originally posted by Ceridwen:astro.com has an option to cast charts without birthtime
How can I do that? It shows a mesage saying that the synastry chart can't be generated without a birth time.
However, without birthtime any interpretation would be very general and seriously lacking. I think your question wouldnīt be able to be answered in a satisfying way, as a very integral part of our attraction pattern are the houses and house-rulerships.
quote:Originally posted by Ceridwen:No, but you can put up both or all three natals without birthtime here 8(I prefer that anyway, so I can see the degrees better)However, without birthtime any interpretation would be very general and seriously lacking. I think your question wouldnīt be able to be answered in a satisfying way, as a very integral part of our attraction pattern are the houses and house-rulerships.
Okay Ceri, I'll post them here and hopefully you can give me some insight!
quote:Originally posted by Venusian Moon:Number 2 lol
and the reason you picked no2?
quote:Originally posted by Got Gemini??:It would be much better to post the synastry and composite charts from astro.com.
Okay guys, here are the charts:
quote:Originally posted by its_aqua: and the reason you picked no2?
Because i like intensity
Anyway, as it is now.
Guy has a Gemini-Venus, which is also a skipped step to his nodal axis (though widely). he probably is attracted to or needs some mental stimulation as well as a flirty approach, at least when it comes to attractions.
however, his Moon might be in Scorpio (it is really difficult to say without birthtime, actually Moon could be in Libra with an early birth, and it would emphasise the need for a more airy intellectual stimulation along with relating in a pleasant, though not necessarily very intense way).
BUT should he be a lter birth, his Moon is in Scorpio, possibly conjunct Pluto and would change it all! This would be a placement of utmost depth and intensity. As much as he might be attracted to charming, witty banter (Venus in Gemini), emotionally he would need a very deep and intense emotional connection to someone.
Girl No 1:ASC in Gemini, which would generally attract his Gemini-Venus, but it is not close enough for being conjunct his ASC. So it could relate to a general liking, but simmering in the background.
Venus sextile her Moon and trine her Venus is a pleasant vibe, a harmony and balance especially in terms of how they relate to each other.
I know that textbooks emphasize the harmonious aspects, but to be honest I have never seen a harmonious sextile or trine "triggering" the need to be in a relationship. While these are very harmonious (and yes, you need that harmony for relationship-compatibility), if there is no dynamic aspect, these people might like each other a lot but never get up their butt to do and INITIATE something. They might be just too passive.
There is a possibility that her Sun is square his Moon, along with Suns in opposition. While this speaks of differences in temperament, it could very well be what is needed to relate to each other in strong ways. (my parents have something similiar: my Mum`s Scorpio Sun opposes my Dad`s Moon and squares his Sun in Aquarius - was enough spark for 40 years so far).
Her Jupiter opposite his Moon (if his Moon is close to 7 degree) would be very supportive as well. A great friendship vibe.however girl no 1 might be lacking the Pluto-vibe his possible Scorpio-Moon needs.
his Sun on her SN, might give a past life link, or at least a pull that is very much based on familiarity. These pulls can be extremely strong, but there is the possibility that it will not be enough to carry on into the future.
I am going to have a look at girl 2 later
She has her Mars conjunct his Venus - she could be exactly what the doctor prescribes, in sexual terms at least.however it does depend a little on the houseruler-relations.I ahve experienced the conjunction without feeling attracted at all when I was Mars (Mars rules my IC and has nothing to do with any kind of sexual identity or partner-ideal).
The square to Venus-Jupiter; well either there are differences in taste and expression of love - but both are in Mercury-ruled signs, so there is some common ground at least-, or it might be actually a bit overindulgent. Jupiter square to Venus can actually make you quite dizzy with pleasure and joy.
Her Moon in Cancer would agree with his Scorpio-Moon, too. So their emotional needs would be similiar.his Moon sextile her Sun would be a good friendship-placement, but interestingly is not as strong and dynamic as in the first synastry.
her Moon possibly trine his Pluto and more importantly opopsite his Neptune. Definitely much more intense than the first one. However, there is the danger of overidealisation and not seeing the other for who they are (neptune oppositions do that).it could be that over time the emotional connection just seems to dissolve, or in the opposite, become quite spiritualized.
her Mars squares his nodal axis - passionate connection, though possibly verbally combative. A bit more banter than the expected maybe.
his Uranus-Saturn conjunct her NN - let me think on that.
Thanks again for your time, and I would love a conclusion of you on which synastry may work best, though its such a pitty I don't have birth times.
quote:Originally posted by starmoon:number 2
thanks for your post starmoon, could you provide any feedback for your choice?
quote:Originally posted by its_aqua:@Ceri thanks so much!!! In the first synastry, wouldn't the fact that the first girl has natally exact Venus-Pluto square and Sun in the 8th, match his Moon-Pluto in Scorpio conjunction? Also, the DW of Mars sextile Sun, doesn't show sexual chemistry or the sextile isn't so strong? Thanks again for your time, and I would love a conclusion of you on which synastry may work best, though its such a pitty I don't have birth times.
I did not see the Venus-Pluto-square. lolYes of course that makes her resonate with Pluto, but more on a Venusian way. While he seeks the intensity in terms of his lunar emotional needs. Actually she could be a bit too intense for his airy Venus.
The Sun in 8th house however could be pretty strong in reflecting his Moon-Pluto-theme. yes. Though it is an Aqua-Sun. It is not an ideal situation, but it may work.
About the Sun-Mars-sextile. Sun-Mars in aspect is always good to have for sexual and physical attraction and energy. Personally I donīt view the sextile as very strong, but maybe others see that differently.I think though that it can produce some playful physical chemistry.
quote:Originally posted by Ceridwen: I did not see the Venus-Pluto-square. lolYes of course that makes her resonate with Pluto, but more on a Venusian way. While he seeks the intensity in terms of his lunar emotional needs. Actually she could be a bit too intense for his airy Venus.The Sun in 8th house however could be pretty strong in reflecting his Moon-Pluto-theme. yes. Though it is an Aqua-Sun. It is not an ideal situation, but it may work.About the Sun-Mars-sextile. Sun-Mars in aspect is always good to have for sexual and physical attraction and energy. Personally I donīt view the sextile as very strong, but maybe others see that differently.I think though that it can produce some playful physical chemistry.
Thanks again Ceri.Well it seems like he chose then 2nd one.Ugh, I feel so frustrated (I was the first one you see, but didn't want to reveal it in order to get some honest feedback without sugarcoating)
I can't even explain how much it gets on my nerves. She's not even pretty.
I wonder if me playing it cool and not giving him much attention didn't work as "playing it cool " is supposed to work.
Anyway, from my experience sooner or later Cancer guys always return, right?
And I think the guy probably feels alot more connected to the second girl, personality wise-it's not just about looks afterall haha.
quote:Originally posted by Haplesschild*:The second girl has much better synastry with the guy, but seeing you don't know the birth time, moon and house placements could be totally different. Therefore the conjunctions may beat large degrees.And I think the guy probably feels alot more connected to the second girl, personality wise-it's not just about looks afterall haha.
*heartbroken*ugh, yeah i know it's not about the looks and all, but after all he's quite superficial in things like that.
I hate the fact that I have to see both of them on daily basis.
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